It may seem paradoxical but announcing to the world that one is enlightened, is a clear sign of not actually being enlightened. I’m not claiming to be enlightened but I would? assume that if one was to in fact reach that state, one wouldn’t have the need to boast about it to others
@BesACB I don’t hold that against him. What I do hold against him is that he he is rude and nasty and seems to think he has some kind of deep understanding of? the world that he needs to share. He does not. He is like a drunk old uncle walking around insulting everybody. I wonder why anybody pays any attention to him.
@skylinefolife Morning. Well I was only talking about psychadelic drugs. I speak from experience having been quite badly messed up as a teenager by them.
21 is old enough I agree, but every first timer should be looked after, whatever age.
I’m not sure any drug can give a sense of what a? schizophrenic goes through. If the brain is completely dysfunctional with voices in the head etc, it must be a kind of hell I think.
I suppose a very bad acid trip might give you a clue.
I’m comfortable -ish.
@T1Brit That’s true. Well, that’s why I took a keen interest w/ Psychology. It’s very insightful. But I am aware of the dangers of ‘drugs,’ but I use them to develop my mind, not prevent its development. Coincidentally, I didn’t get high or start doing any drugs after I turned 21, so I was fully developed. And they’re quite insightful to know what a schizo, or paranoid person might be going through. So at 46, do you feel comfortable with your views? ?
@skylinefolife I’m 46. Been around a while. I’m not against drugs. They are like any other tool. But hallucinogenic ones like cannabis and LSD are dangerous for some people. They can trigger psychosis that was previously under control. Even a fairly stable and solid person can be badly screwed up by a bad LSD trip. I think that they should only be taken under safe conditions, with at least one experienced person present who can help if shit starts to go bad.
P.S. – YOU are not? your THOUGHTS.
@T1Brit But of course. There is a difference between a user, and abuser, though. How old are you, dude?
It’s a funny thing. Being able? to think. A side of me is involved in the science, but the other side of my brain sees things more spirituality. I can never escape the grips of dualism, lol. :b
@skylinefolife Yes? I’ve done plenty of psychadelics, and they can help to loosen up the mind and suggest that normal view may not be the truth. They can also cause serious problems of their own and should be treated with caution.
@skylinefolife No? that is not what Buddha said at all. I will try to say it here: What we actually are and what we perceive ourselves to be are not the same. What we call normal mind is a very distorted and inaccurate view. We think we are separate from the world around us, we think that there is something inside us called ‘me’ – We worry about many things because of this way of seeing. If we can only put down this illusion, we see that there is no ‘me’. This is a wonderful relief and joy to see
@T1Brit Thanks, I’ll? check those guys out later on. Buddha? That’s the guy who thought that through Nirvana, he would never have to return to this world, right? Eternal rest, I suppose. I don’t remember the exact details : But idk, if that’s the guy, I find it hard to believe. It seems to me this is the only reality in which one can exist. Can heaven be that other ‘reality’? It’s dope to think about it, though. Have you ever had any psychedelics?
@skylinefolife My? definition of enlightenment is seeing exactly what is. To be fully awake. It’s what Buddha had. It’s what all genuine schools and methods teach. Seeing directly without the distortion of ego – starting with the first fact – consciousness itself. The question ‘what am I?’ being the starting point for all honest inquiry.
Yes I can recommend several enlightened beings right here on youtube.
Adyashanti – Shinzen – Zen Master Dae Kwang – Zen Master Bon Soeng – Mooji
@T1Brit Good morning. But I do see what you’re saying. What’s your definition of enlightenment? Is it science? Science is definitely modern man’s enlightenment, but no matter what, there will always be that essence inside we call imagination. That, to many, is beautiful. And everyone senses a different ‘subjective’ experience. This isn’t science. It’s philosophy,? I guess. But it’s such an intriguing question: Who are you? It opens your mind. Can you recommend an ‘enlightened’ person?
@skylinefolife? Morning. I was just checking one more time. I have heard Krishnamurti speak before, and it is as I remember. I have no idea why he is gets the attention that he does. He does not sound like any enlightened being that I have heard, and I have heard quite a few by now. He is full of bile and very rude and his views are utterly nasty and incorrect it seems to me. An Indian nutcase with a chip on his shoulder is all he is. Just saying.
Whenever I feel the feeling of melancholy, sadness or whatever that is negative, rushing in my thoughts and livelyhood … i find comfort and wisdom in listening to this fabulious deity who is called Krishnamurti and so I continue on my journey that? is called life.
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It may seem paradoxical but announcing to the world that one is enlightened, is a clear sign of not actually being enlightened. I’m not claiming to be enlightened but I would? assume that if one was to in fact reach that state, one wouldn’t have the need to boast about it to others
Meh.?
@BesACB I don’t hold that against him. What I do hold against him is that he he is rude and nasty and seems to think he has some kind of deep understanding of? the world that he needs to share. He does not. He is like a drunk old uncle walking around insulting everybody. I wonder why anybody pays any attention to him.
@T1Brit “he does not sound like any enlightened being that I have heard” I wouldn’t hold that? against him.
@skylinefolife Morning. Well I was only talking about psychadelic drugs. I speak from experience having been quite badly messed up as a teenager by them.
21 is old enough I agree, but every first timer should be looked after, whatever age.
I’m not sure any drug can give a sense of what a? schizophrenic goes through. If the brain is completely dysfunctional with voices in the head etc, it must be a kind of hell I think.
I suppose a very bad acid trip might give you a clue.
I’m comfortable -ish.
@T1Brit That’s true. Well, that’s why I took a keen interest w/ Psychology. It’s very insightful. But I am aware of the dangers of ‘drugs,’ but I use them to develop my mind, not prevent its development. Coincidentally, I didn’t get high or start doing any drugs after I turned 21, so I was fully developed. And they’re quite insightful to know what a schizo, or paranoid person might be going through. So at 46, do you feel comfortable with your views? ?
@skylinefolife I’m 46. Been around a while. I’m not against drugs. They are like any other tool. But hallucinogenic ones like cannabis and LSD are dangerous for some people. They can trigger psychosis that was previously under control. Even a fairly stable and solid person can be badly screwed up by a bad LSD trip. I think that they should only be taken under safe conditions, with at least one experienced person present who can help if shit starts to go bad.
P.S. – YOU are not? your THOUGHTS.
@T1Brit But of course. There is a difference between a user, and abuser, though. How old are you, dude?
It’s a funny thing. Being able? to think. A side of me is involved in the science, but the other side of my brain sees things more spirituality. I can never escape the grips of dualism, lol. :b
@skylinefolife Yes? I’ve done plenty of psychadelics, and they can help to loosen up the mind and suggest that normal view may not be the truth. They can also cause serious problems of their own and should be treated with caution.
@skylinefolife No? that is not what Buddha said at all. I will try to say it here: What we actually are and what we perceive ourselves to be are not the same. What we call normal mind is a very distorted and inaccurate view. We think we are separate from the world around us, we think that there is something inside us called ‘me’ – We worry about many things because of this way of seeing. If we can only put down this illusion, we see that there is no ‘me’. This is a wonderful relief and joy to see
@T1Brit Thanks, I’ll? check those guys out later on. Buddha? That’s the guy who thought that through Nirvana, he would never have to return to this world, right? Eternal rest, I suppose. I don’t remember the exact details : But idk, if that’s the guy, I find it hard to believe. It seems to me this is the only reality in which one can exist. Can heaven be that other ‘reality’? It’s dope to think about it, though. Have you ever had any psychedelics?
@skylinefolife My? definition of enlightenment is seeing exactly what is. To be fully awake. It’s what Buddha had. It’s what all genuine schools and methods teach. Seeing directly without the distortion of ego – starting with the first fact – consciousness itself. The question ‘what am I?’ being the starting point for all honest inquiry.
Yes I can recommend several enlightened beings right here on youtube.
Adyashanti – Shinzen – Zen Master Dae Kwang – Zen Master Bon Soeng – Mooji
@T1Brit Good morning. But I do see what you’re saying. What’s your definition of enlightenment? Is it science? Science is definitely modern man’s enlightenment, but no matter what, there will always be that essence inside we call imagination. That, to many, is beautiful. And everyone senses a different ‘subjective’ experience. This isn’t science. It’s philosophy,? I guess. But it’s such an intriguing question: Who are you? It opens your mind. Can you recommend an ‘enlightened’ person?
@skylinefolife? Morning. I was just checking one more time. I have heard Krishnamurti speak before, and it is as I remember. I have no idea why he is gets the attention that he does. He does not sound like any enlightened being that I have heard, and I have heard quite a few by now. He is full of bile and very rude and his views are utterly nasty and incorrect it seems to me. An Indian nutcase with a chip on his shoulder is all he is. Just saying.
@T1Brit A) Schizophrenia. B) Why? are you watching this video? :b
Krishnamurti is full? of shit. He is not enlightened. He is just a schitzo with no manners.
Wow…?
@Nflszzr i understand how you feel…but the challenge is to love those guys who voted negative and? respect their idea..peace
@XidiotX proper hate is just another form of love.
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Whenever I feel the feeling of melancholy, sadness or whatever that is negative, rushing in my thoughts and livelyhood … i find comfort and wisdom in listening to this fabulious deity who is called Krishnamurti and so I continue on my journey that? is called life.
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